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Libel and slander are types of defamatory statements. Libel refers to written defamatory statements and slander is spoken. However, at Amazon who ever writes a book review or posts a comment “says” it!
By Eileen Fleming
On Amazon’s page for BEYOND NUCLEAR: Mordechai Vanunu’s FREEDOM of SPEECH TRIAL: And My LIfe as a Muckracker (Kindle Edition) the following libelous statement was written by Cyrus who says:
That is hilarious, you interview 10 USS liberty survivors who are all bias and discount every US investigation. As if the survivors could read the minds of the IdF as they were being accidently attacked. I have spoken with Joe Meadors and he cannot even supply a motive for the Israli attack. In fact, he doesn’t even know 50% of what even occured during the event, he doesn’t want to know
Like i said, you are a bias propagandist and you don’t even pretend not to be bias. Anyone with an IQ iver 70 can see you have no credability as a neutral investigator.
Amazon deleted the libel/slander but not before the books author who is this reporter replied to Cyrus!
eileen fleming says:
My comfortably numb life was irrevocably changed on that day we call 911 and yes I am biased on the side of the oppressed, occupied and voiceless!
Because THE MEDIA was NOT asking my questions and my faith is in the NONVIOLENT Jesus, I RESEARCHED and then journeyed 8 times to both sides of the Apartheid Wall since 2005 and my life is dedicated to END USA collusion in Israel’s Nuclear DECEPTIONS and the 67 years of Military Occupation of the indigenous Palestinians.
Cyrus has persisted to TRY to annoy me as he proves he has not even read Vanunu’s FREEDOM of SPEECH Trial and My Life as a Muckraker 2005-2010 for not one of his comments address anything I wrote in that book!
However, Cyrus has caused me to smile out loud over his generating 31 comments [as of this writing] on the thread he began on 6 September 2015 with: Don’t waste your time or money on this poorly authored garbage…
I am still smiling over this reply to Cyrus from 11 November by Kevan Hudson who says:
Wow! All you succeed in doing is ad hominem attacks. Do you have any facts or links to prove anything you say. Why? Because all you have done is convince me to purchase the e-book. Haters, not debaters, only serve to undermine their own point of view. Continued good luck in your quest to make more people question what is happening in Israel.
Cyrus says to Kevan, If you like propaganda based information then by means buy it. The author already admitted that she is biased but unfortunitely you ignored that. Good luck reading propaganda.
In response eileen fleming says:
Oh Cyrus you and it is ‘funny’ that you should mention propaganda as I just read journalist and author Alan Hart who wrote:
“Yes, Jews Are The Victims – Of Zionist Propaganda. My headline takes me back 35 years to the day when I had a remarkably frank (honest) conversation in Tel Aviv with then retired Major General Shlomo Gazit, the very best and the brightest of Israel’s Directors of Military Intelligence. I put to him my conclusion that “It’s all nonsense.” I meant and said that contrary to the assertions spewed out by its leaders, Israel’s existence had never, ever, been in danger from any combination of Arab and other Muslim military force and was never likely to be. Through a sad smile Shlomo replied, “The trouble with us Israelis is that we’ve become the victims of our own propaganda.”
So Cyrus, I offer you this slight paraphrase of Rev. MLK, Jr:
The world is pulled to change by PROPAGANDA and our only dilemma is what will we be propagandists for? Truth or BS? Hate or love? God or State? The preservation of injustice or the extension of justice and equal human rights?
So YES I am a propagandist on the side of Truth, Love, God, Justice and Equal Human Rights!
As the IOF always say to Americans as they pass through the over 600 checkpoints in the occupied state of Palestine: have a nice day…
I posted my final comment at that thread on Friday the 13th of November.
eileen fleming says:
Good morning Cyrus and I do NOT “hide behind a veil of lies” nor have I ever ignored the facts on the ground and the simple truth is: you will NEVER read or hear me on the topics you listed above and which you are obviously obsessed with;
And I offer you a great line from “The Help” which underscores WHY I write about USA collusion in Israel’s Nuclear DECEPTIONS and Vanunu’s human rights struggle:
“Write about what disturbs you, particularly if it bothers no one else.”- Kathryn Stockett
Another book of mine Cyrus has NOT read but ‘reviewed’ was my call for the Third Intifada beginning on 1 October stating: “Wow, this reads exactly like propaganda, not history. It is obvious the author completly ignores history for a pro-palestinian narative.”
On Friday, November 13th author of BREAKTHROUGH Transforming Fear Into Compassion – A New Perspective on the Israel-Palestine Conflict richard forer says:
Cyrus, Choosing just two of your assertions, I will first refer to your remarks about UN Resolution 181, the 1947 partition plan and your blatantly bigoted characterization of Arabs as “greedy.” Following that I will refer to your claim that Israel is a democracy. Morally compromised for failing to obtain the consent of the indigenous people, Resolution 181 gave 56% of British Mandate Palestine to the Jewish people, who owned less than 7% of the land, and 43% to the Palestinians with the remaining one percent, Jerusalem and Bethlehem, under the authority of the United Nations.
The endlessly repeated argument by people like yourself who defend Israel against criticism, which is usually justified, is that Jewish acceptance and Palestinian rejection of partition proves the Jewish side has always wanted peace and the Palestinian side has never wanted peace.
Therefore, the Palestinians are to blame for this never-ending problem. One of the assumptions in this argument is that Israel would have been content to exist on 56% of Palestine with a divided Jerusalem. But Israel has never been content existing on the 78% of Palestine it has controlled since 1949, nor would Israel ever accept a divided Jerusalem under any sovereignty other than its own.
A Jewish state based upon Partition would have had an initial 49% Arab minority that would quickly have become a majority. It is utterly naïve to think that Israel would have accepted such an outcome. In fact, Israel’s founding father, David Ben-Gurion pledged to his political party that the borders established by 181 were not final.
Other prominent Israelis agreed with Ben-Gurion, who for decades had made clear that acceptance of partition was always meant to be a stepping-stone to all of Palestine. Clearly, acceptance of 181 was a tactical decision and prelude to further expansion.
Regarding the mantra that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East, I don’t think the 55 laws within Israel proper that discriminate against non-Jews attests to that cliché. Try telling non-Jews anywhere in Israel/Palestine that they live in a democracy. The purpose of this argument is to divert attention from Israel’s undemocratic policies by professing an alleged moral superiority while ignoring, with regard to its treatment of non-Jews, its moral inferiority.
Any definition of Israel’s political structure cannot magically disguise the inequality that is made possible by the very people who make this argument. Of the many things that can be said, let me say that 1) within Israel proper, 1,200 Jewish towns, but not a single Palestinian town, have been established since 1948. And 2) Israel is actively displacing tens of thousands of Bedouins from their villages within Israel proper for the simple reason that they are not Jewish. Almost all are Israeli citizens and their villages pre-date the state of Israel.
Underscoring Forer, Ariel Sharon explained, “The terms ‘democracy’ or ‘democratic’ are totally absent from the Declaration of Independence. This is not an accident. The intention of Zionism was not to bring democracy, needless to say. It was solely motivated by the creation in Eretz-Isrel of a Jewish state belonging to all the Jewish people and to the Jewish people alone. This is why any Jew of the Diaspora has the right to immigrate to Israel and to become a citizen of Israel.”– 28 May 1993, Yedioth Ahronoth [Israel’s top newspaper by way of circulation]
In my call for the Third Intifada I never mention the USS LIBERTY, but Cyrus generated 19 comments [as of this writing] by raising the issue and I ended my attention to that thread on Saturday, November 14, as eileen fleming says:
Dear Cyrus RE your claim: “Israel had no motive to bomb a US vessel. No one has ever come up with a reasonable motive why Israel would attack a US vessel, not even those who think it was intentional.”
Israel was motivated to kill and destroy the USS LIBERTY as it navigated in international waters because they KNEW it was USA’s top spy ship [NOT equipped for battle!] and they FEARED their communications were being collected; which they were and which were also pitched over board by the crew when Israel’s brutal attack on the spy ship began.
This reporter is interested in Cyrus explaining why Israel destroyed ALL the life boats which is a war crime via-a-vis his claim “After the Liberty was identified all attacks stopped and two IAF helicopters offered assistance.”
USS LIBERTY survivor Gary Brummett who was a Third Class Petty Officer assigned to the Boiler Room informed this reporter: “Israel said they stopped attacking us after the torpedo hit, but that’s a big lie! I think they stopped shooting at us because they ran out of ammunition. When we got to Malta, I was one of five two men teams that counted the direct hits and while the official record states 821 direct hits plus the torpedo there were thousands of rounds of ammo that hit us and no way could they all be counted!”
Lt. Commander David Ed Lewis was the officer in charge of 195 men out of the total crew of 294 on the US LIBERTY and he informed this reporter: “Rear Admiral Lawrence Geiss was in charge of the USS Saratoga and USS America. He swore me to secrecy until his death, which happened about nineteen years later. What he told me I kept secret until I learned of his death at the first reunion and twenty year anniversary of the veterans of the USS LIBERTY. He told me that as soon as he got the word of our distress he launched aircraft and notified D.C. Immediately he heard from McNamara to recall the aircraft. He said he assumed it was because some idiots in Washington thought that he was launching nuclear weaponry. He reconfigured and then re-launched aircraft without nuclear capabilities. Admiral Geiss notified Washington of this and once again the immediate response that came from McNamara was the order to recall the aircraft. Admiral Geiss challenged the order and pleaded that people are dying! LBJ was heard to say, ‘I don’t give a d–m! I won’t embarrass an ally.”
“After more than two hours of unremitting assault, the Israelis finally halted their attack. One of the torpedo boats approached the Liberty. This same torpedo boat crew had been circling the ship, machine-gunning anyone who stuck his head above decks, as well as the lifeboats the crew had put over the side. A torpedo boat officer asked in English over a bullhorn: ‘Do you need any help?’ The wounded commander of the Liberty, Captain William McGonagle, instructed the quartermaster to respond emphatically: “F’ You.”
Read more of this reporters interviews with USS LIBERTY survivors for FREE HERE
A number of Johnson administration, military, and intelligence community officials – all of whom had access to classified materials regarding the attack – have commented on the conclusions they reached concerning Israel’s attack on the USS Liberty which can be read HERE
Of utmost interest is that in the long list of merchandise on Cyrus’s Amazon page the ONLY other book he reviewed was The Liberty Incident Revealed: The Definitive Account of the 1967 Israeli Attack on the U.S. Navy Spy Ship … by A. Jay Cristol who “has long disputed Liberty survivors’ claims” and “his sourcing among the crew appears so shallow as to be nonexistent.”
Cyrus gave it 5 Stars!
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Producer "30 Minutes with Vanunu" who founded WeAreWideAwake.org in response to her first of 8 trips to both sides of The Wall in Palestine Israel.
In 2012, Eileen ran for US House of Representatives District 5, in Fl.
Read her FREE eBooks and more at:http://www.eileenfleming.org/
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